basically, the united states led a nato intervention to protect the muslims against bosnia muslims against serbia aggression, and then in afghanistan, one could argue that the toppling of the taliban in 2001, and i was there for that too, was a benefit for the afghan people, certainly for the women of that society, didn't like being ruled by medieval cult, and then, and then the, in terms of iraq, you know, overthrowing the united states -- the united states did overthrow a dictator based on maybe its misreading of intelligence and wmd, but it empowered the shia majority allowing them to exercise, well, to be part of the government in a way they could never have been otherwise. i think at this point in time, so many people have served in iraq for so long, i mean, talking about a conflict that started in 2003 and we still have a very largest embassy in the world there. there's a fine grain understanding among american experts about the differences between sueny and shia, and long the sunni and among the shia, that's not the issue. i do think that one thing that works against the united states is t